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Chris
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PostSubject: Choices.   Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:37 am

Hey Dave,

Welcome back mate!

An easy question for you.. as always from me. Smile

In broad terms I know you feel human beings should fight utilising genetic physical, mental and emotional tools. That we should keep our expression of violence as close to the "unevolved" state as we can. (at least I hope I've picked that up with otherwise the rest of this question may not make sense. Very Happy )

What do you feel are the best methods for stripping away the "clutter" to get back to that state. I can see a progression in the training sessions with the NE lads that has at times been like watching babies develop movement, problem solving and communcation skills. BUT.. I'm still trying to work out the methods by which you got the group to that point. Smile

I know you have a plan, you always do. Even if the plan changes from minute to minute. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Choices.   Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:50 am

Yes Chris .. Oh I am not sure now if coming back WAS a good idea.. I end up with all these dead easy questions from Chris Ha Ha

Yes there IS a plan, and YES it does work in with the concepts you quoted.. My methods (learnt from, borrowed from and partly developed from both Kenshiro Abbe and John Warfield..

Set the 'mind set ' of the students by the opening gambit, converstaion, lecture whatever...
Surprise them (and usually Stu) with the first technique, to get their attention by putting their minds into a feeling of accepting and being aware of something potentially a danger to them.
Get them to concentrate of some movement or 'feeling' that is ALREADY THERE, by a deception.. make it look as though the TECHNIQUE is of importance, when in fact its the CONCEPT that matters.. watch them struggle with the workings of the movements and then almost by accident allowing their INSTINCTS to take over and work it our fot them

simple really Chris
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PostSubject: Re: Choices.   Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:05 am

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Surprise them (and usually Stu) with the first technique, to get their attention by putting their minds into a feeling of accepting and being aware of something potentially a danger to them.


that's the perfect answer for the "what Stu gets out of being uke for the day." if all people saw was him receiving the techniques they would miss the additional time you spend with him making sure he's got the acceptance and understanding of the concepts you were employing. He gets the full spectrum of understanding and feeling. Tough path to follow but a rewarding one and it pays off from what I can see through his development.

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Get them to concentrate of some movement or 'feeling' that is ALREADY THERE, by a deception.. make it look as though the TECHNIQUE is of importance, when in fact its the CONCEPT that matters.. watch them struggle with the workings of the movements and then almost by accident allowing their INSTINCTS to take over and work it our fot them


and THAT's why people looking at the extra sessions would see very little "technique." In fact I suppose a lot of them would think the more advanced stuff had been covered earlier in the day and the later stuff was you trying to show lumbering elephants how to tapdance. Really, you're stripping away the unnecessary clutter of movement and thought that gets in the way of more natural responses. Natural responses looking erroneously like simple responses?

looks simple but looks are deceiving.Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Choices.   Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:53 am

You've got it Chris .. well done mate
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