Resistance Bands

Admin Joined : 16 Aug 2007 Posts : 232

Hi Dave,

I've been trying to work around this dodgy shoulder for a while and it's not really paying off. One bad move and it seems like its back to square one.

I've been toying with the idea of using resistance bands to prevent more wear and tear while maybe giving better supporting strength. What do you think?

I remember a while ago you had the name and details of a guy who made and supplied sets of strands. Can't find it though, I don't suppose you still have it tucked away somewhere?

When I get sorted I'll bug you for some training tips on how to use the things effectively. Cool

cheers
Chris

Subject: Re: Resistance Bands Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:47 am

Name would be Jim Bartlett.. but he deals really in heavy duty competition strands (chest expanders)..

He is Secretary ofthe ISSA (International Steel Strand-pullers Association)

I am fairly sure your problem is rotator cuff.. and would require very light strands or bands... Argos and Woolies have some light ones.. but you would need some tuition if it IS rotator cuff

Joined : 04 Jun 2008 Posts : 26

Hi Chris,

Have you tried using an inner tube from an old push-bike. I think my old Judo Coach mentioned he used them when training.

john cmc

Subject: Re: Resistance Bands Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:19 pm

I used them many times .. worked well

Joined : 04 Jun 2008 Posts : 26

Dave,
Sorry for jumping in on this, I just had a brain storm.

john cmc

Subject: Re: Resistance Bands Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:48 am

any time mate . any time

Joined : 11 Sep 2007 Posts : 11

Chris, I was wondering since we are of similar stature, do you hold the focus mitts at the correct height for you or do you hold them at the correct height for your training partner, who is usually a good bit taller ( and heavier ) I find? I've had sore shoulders in the past and I'm wondering if this could be part of the cause as when the arm is lifted high the shoulder does not seem to let it move back as much . Im thinking of shoulders quite a lot at the moment as I've torn the rotator cuff of my right shouder hitting one of the previously mentioned heavier taining partners with an elbow/fore arm strike ( holding a pad..) I wonder if it was already weakened before from training though,although I do have some limitation of movement in the shoulder due to my job.The answer that I'm getting too old to be trying to knock back partners four stones heavier is not an option and it was not a good feeling needing to have my daughter cut my meals up for me, a view of the future that I can really do without....

Trevor

Joined : 30 Aug 2007 Posts : 47

Chris: Check this link out: http://www.oldtimestrongman.com/indian_clubs.html

Admin Joined : 16 Aug 2007 Posts : 232

Thanks for the info and the advice lads.

Hey Trev,

You may be right about the focus pad angle causing problems. I don't think that it actually caused the damage but it definitely is a factor in amount of damage and continued irritation to the injury. I have changed the way I hold the pads for people.. away from the typical palms up, arm 90 degrees angle to the more flexible arms away from the body. I also make sure that my partners hold pads at the correct position for ME rather than the most natural position for them. Not something I always insisted on in the past.

My injury (torn right rotator cuff as well!) was actually caused by a newbie slamming on a figure four while I was pinned on the ground. Good old Chris teaching the new guy the correct technique and he tries to rip my arm out without warning or time for me to protect the joint! Ever since then the slightest stress causes it to tear again. As you say, not training is not an option but I've had to park my ego a bit and just bail out of training techniques that I know will cause irritation. Fortunately, a lot of the lads in the NE SDF are cool and understand that its not because I'm being a wimp.

I think we are just getting old mate. Smile

Rupert,

That's a great site mate. I'll enjoy looking through the material. Thanks very much.

Subject: Re: Resistance Bands Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:31 am

Indian clubs used to be in every gym I went to in the 60's.. great training aids.. I have loads of articles in old mags about them.. used the a lot once for about 6 weeks, then just stopped for whatever reasons

I always felt shoulder joint flexibility was equally as important as shoulder joint strength, and often the two simply arent

Joined : 03 Sep 2007 Posts : 77

Hi Trev,
I haven't been around the forum for quite some time, but heard you were injured so thought I would log on and see if you were doing any "virtual training" whilst laid up.

Sorry to hear about the shoulder, as it sounds like a nasty injury. I'm not sure how much responsibility I have to take for being the holder of the pads, nor whether it is my height or weight that is to blame... it is usually the weight though, at least that's what my wife says anyway.... Laughing

Hope you're back in one piece soon, and will see you at our new venue (wherever that might end up being...!)

Cheers
Paul

Subject: Re: Resistance Bands Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:36 pm

Hi Guys,

Hey Paul how's it going.

I was just thinking about this idea of holding pads at the right height, surely there is no right height to hold a pad and you should be varying the target.
If I only learn to strike someone my own size what happens when I come up against a larger opponent, I have to deal with that so I make sure that I train with different partners all holding the pads slightly differently.

Alan

Admin Joined : 16 Aug 2007 Posts : 232

Hi Alan,

I agree with you totally. You get around the problem of variety by ensuring that whenever possible you alter the person holding the pads for you. That way they can hold the gear in the "correct" manner (correct being the way that decreases chance of injury to both parties) while ensuring that you come up against a variety of pad positions.

I know a good number of injuries that have been obtained because of inefficient padwork. There are definite skills involved in being a good pad-man that the vast majority of people training don't possess. Feeding, movement, positioning, body structure seem to go out of the window in most clubs.

Joined : 03 Sep 2007 Posts : 77

Hi Alan,
things are good, thanks for asking. Just dropped into see if Trev had been here after apparently passively injuring him by means of motionless but excessive bodyweight...!
Good to see the forum is still alive and well, and have caught up on a few decent threads.

Hope you and your family are well.

Paul

Joined : 11 Sep 2007 Posts : 11

Hi Alan, what I meant by correct height, was correct for when the head is the target. I found that if I was holding the pad for a pre-emptive right cross for eg I've been holding it usually at around the height of my training partners head, or a bit higher or lower ,rather than about my head height ,as its not as likely that they would end up fighting someone of my height. I agree variety of pad height/position is good but in a small club where you end up training with the same few partners, I've been aware that partners need to prepare mainly for the people they will probably fight and there are not that many at 5'5'' .Likewise I dont tend to practise to strike anyone smaller than me..... Smile

Paul, it makes a change from you actively damaging me.