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Rusty Shackleford




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PostSubject: Valuable lesson regarding the Fence   Wed May 28, 2008 10:39 pm

It's astounding to me how clueless some folks are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fZWWB0MolA
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Chris
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PostSubject: Re: Valuable lesson regarding the Fence   Thu May 29, 2008 1:08 am

Horrible KO!

Text book pre-empt right on the button.

What WAS the smaller guy thinking????
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DaveCollins




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PostSubject: Re: Valuable lesson regarding the Fence   Thu May 29, 2008 1:58 am

Chris wrote:
Horrible KO!

Text book pre-empt right on the button.

What WAS the smaller guy thinking????


He certainly wasn't thinking 'this guy is going to Judas punch me!'
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Jeff Menapace
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PostSubject: Re: Valuable lesson regarding the Fence   Thu May 29, 2008 4:27 am

I wouldn't call that a Judas punch. The fight was on a long time ago, it was just a matter of who drew first.

Jeff
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Lito
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PostSubject: Re: Valuable lesson regarding the Fence   Thu May 29, 2008 8:44 am

Hi Gents,
Jeff wrote:
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I wouldn't call that a Judas punch. The fight was on a long time ago, it was just a matter of who drew first.


I completely agree with you pal. The small guy definitely isn't the sharpest tool in the shed...

Check this one out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BkPvmSOVR0&feature=related In this situation, the ref was completely taken by surprise. It's understandable that a ref wouldn't think/expect to be attacked in an organized game, but it happens for time to time. As such, it would behoove any ref to be on-guard, mentally and physically, for such attacks when making calls even though the likelihood is small.

Take Care,
Lito
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DaveCollins




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PostSubject: Re: Valuable lesson regarding the Fence   Thu May 29, 2008 11:21 am

To me they are squaring up for a 'match fight', hence the Judas aspect of the punch.

If some twat comes up to you in a pub or in the street and is aggressive then pre-empt/Judas punch - but not when you are parading your 'Macho' around in front of audience, that is just rather low rent...
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Alan Beckett
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PostSubject: Re: Valuable lesson regarding the Fence   Thu May 29, 2008 12:19 pm

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It's astounding to me how clueless some folks are.


I would agree with that but I think we need to remind ourselves that we are in the minority and most folks just dont think about it never mind train for it.


Alan

PS. it was a sweet punch though.
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Rusty Shackleford




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PostSubject: Re: Valuable lesson regarding the Fence   Thu May 29, 2008 1:50 pm

Alan,

I would agree with you that common sense is quite uncommon when it comes to these matters. Both of these chaps were vulnerable during the pre- fight ritual. Standing in the pocket with their hands up their arse like that, I guess we just take it for granted.
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RupertC




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PostSubject: Re: Valuable lesson regarding the Fence   Fri May 30, 2008 1:31 am

The first video is a great example of how NOT to do it. Iīm going to send it to some mates whoīre a bit clueless. Has anyone got a good graphic video of a good fence/pre-empt? My mates donīt speak English, so it has to be visual.

Cheers!
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Rusty Shackleford




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PostSubject: Re: Valuable lesson regarding the Fence   Fri May 30, 2008 9:09 am

Rupert,

I couldn't find any cctv footage of the fence being employed, but I did find a trailer for a pre-emptive instructional DVD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFq8C6fS0cg

It should give your friends a very basic visual understanding about setting up boundaries.
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RupertC




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PostSubject: Re: Valuable lesson regarding the Fence   Fri May 30, 2008 10:37 am

Nice one, mate. Thatīs perfect!
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Lito
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PostSubject: Re: Valuable lesson regarding the Fence   Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:11 am

Hi Guys,
A buddy of mine directed me to this "perfect" video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9rCOpTPRlU

It clearly displays the typical body language signs/rituals common in the pre-fight confrontation stage and, on the experienced guy's part, exemplifies subtle fence work (what I believe John Skillen refers to as the "invisible fence") followed by preemption perfection. Man, he executed a perfect hook that produced a clean, clinical knockout! That, my friends, IS textbook "three-second fighting" against guys who have no clue/no control on the pre-fight aspects (which, more often than not, are the ones you're most likely to encounter in gratuitous situations). Anyway...

Take Care,
Lito
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Rusty Shackleford




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PostSubject: Re: Valuable lesson regarding the Fence   Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:09 am

Absolute poetry in motion. I also liked Grannon's analysis of the encounter.
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Jeff Menapace
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PostSubject: Re: Valuable lesson regarding the Fence   Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:07 am

Shocked
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